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i would suggest to him or pose the question he sasz he's followed the law to the letter of the law in terms of paying his taxes, but so do the 47%. so why is it that it's okay for him but it's not okay for them. and i would also love to do a little comparison with how much money he's actually saved versus that 47% gets in that earned income tax credit and let's just compare who's really getting the sweeter deal there. >> i think if there's just one question, i guess i would like to hear if you gave john mccain a dozen or more tax returns in order to be vetted for him, why wouldn't you give us those tax returns to vet you for the possible presidency. that's what i think the audience could follow. >> absolutely. i think that's what a lot of people are thinking. what is the big deal? why not just show us? and i also think it's a bit of malpractice the way his team has miscalculated how this story would play out. >> and paul ryan had to give ten years of his returns to romney. >> right. thank you both for joining me >> thanks. >> coming up. the republican voter suppression strategy in pen
i would suggest to him or pose the question he sasz he's followed the law to the letter of the law in terms of paying his taxes, but so do the 47%. so why is it that it's okay for him but it's not okay for them. and i would also love to do a little comparison with how much money he's actually saved versus that 47% gets in that earned income tax credit and let's just compare who's really getting the sweeter deal there. >> i think if there's just one question, i guess i would like to hear...
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i should maybe come out and say my sister-in-law is a union school teacher in milwaukee so i would be in big trouble if i had written anything different about this movie. but for is some reason and i think the reason is the billionaire christian right wing guy who financed this film, this movie is somewhat cleverly packaged, not all that cleverly packaged, kind of trojan horse which wants to be a stand and deliver you know inspirational message for all americans and is trying to convince you it's the teachers union is responsible for everything wrong with american education. >> andrew, the movie focuses on the so-called parent trigger laws which allows parents to sign a petition to essentially take over the school and make dramatic changes if it's failing. that sounds like empowering parents. that doesn't sound like a bad thing. i would say that the notion of allowing parents to take control of a school and have more control over the child's education, doesn't also seem like a fundamentally conservative idea to me. >> it isn't necessarily i suppose a fundamentally conservative idea, t
i should maybe come out and say my sister-in-law is a union school teacher in milwaukee so i would be in big trouble if i had written anything different about this movie. but for is some reason and i think the reason is the billionaire christian right wing guy who financed this film, this movie is somewhat cleverly packaged, not all that cleverly packaged, kind of trojan horse which wants to be a stand and deliver you know inspirational message for all americans and is trying to convince you...
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wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it. >> i have supported the roe v. wade. i am pro-choice. my opponent is multiple choice. >> well, the president has consistently supported roe v. wade. he told a student town hall just that in 2004. >> it's not our position to impose on that woman something that has to do with her body. it's her body essentially that is at stake. >> the president has faced criticism. his plan to require religious employers to offer contraception came under fire, and before that in order to get the health care reform bill passed, he agreed to ban federal funds for abortion except in certain cases. now, to blunt the hangover, ads attacking romney aired, and one democratic group is now microtargeting over 338,000 women in the nine battleground states. women who support abortion rights but are obama defectors who may stay home or are waivering. chris? >> the numbers are fascinating. thank you. >>> today's tweet of the day comes from anthony derosa who is a reuters columnist. quote, today's job report does not reflect the possibility of
wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it. >> i have supported the roe v. wade. i am pro-choice. my opponent is multiple choice. >> well, the president has consistently supported roe v. wade. he told a student town hall just that in 2004. >> it's not our position to impose on that woman something that has to do with her body. it's her body essentially that is at stake. >> the president has faced criticism. his plan to require religious...
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court decision quote -- the court is saying that all voters must be treated the same way until ohio law, but also grants ohio's 88 election boards the authority to establish how any court can consider this a remedy is stunning. now, he's saying this as his basis to appeal to the supreme court, yet clearly in the 2000 election, it showed how early voting was very crucial. 93,000 ohioans voted in the final three days of early voting in 2008. he wants that cut out this time in fact cut it out and the appeals court reversed him on it. tell me the legal interpretation you get from there. >> there's a lot of latitude in operating the functions of offices around the state, but when you were talking about the fundamental right, equal protection, equal access to the ballot that's what the court says you cannot abuse. the sixth circuit that made this decision is made up of 16 active justices, ten of them are republican appointees. the chief justice is george h.w. bush appointee. nine others from george wish one from -- so we're not talking about some radical liberal circuit court. these injureses
court decision quote -- the court is saying that all voters must be treated the same way until ohio law, but also grants ohio's 88 election boards the authority to establish how any court can consider this a remedy is stunning. now, he's saying this as his basis to appeal to the supreme court, yet clearly in the 2000 election, it showed how early voting was very crucial. 93,000 ohioans voted in the final three days of early voting in 2008. he wants that cut out this time in fact cut it out and...
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law school will graduate and pass the bar in the first attempt. they don't get any information. that seemses to elementally unfair. we want better information from researchers and the students to benefit from the preferences. >> stewart, let's talk some about how would you would change affirm itch action. william julius wilson argues in the truly disadvantaged, we have a different critique that results in a process in the sense that those with the greatest economic resources among the less advantaged individuals are the ones actually tapped for higher-paying jobs and higher education through affirmative action. he argues as a tool to increase diversity, affirmative action is successful. as a tool to lift people, it's been a failure. how could we reform affirmative action and make it more effective in that respect? >> william julius wilson is a great scholar and he's right. his point you summarize and the affirmative action instead of it. >> they're by and large affluent blacks and hispanics and it does nothing at all for the poor and the working c
law school will graduate and pass the bar in the first attempt. they don't get any information. that seemses to elementally unfair. we want better information from researchers and the students to benefit from the preferences. >> stewart, let's talk some about how would you would change affirm itch action. william julius wilson argues in the truly disadvantaged, we have a different critique that results in a process in the sense that those with the greatest economic resources among the...
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law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania in taction and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vintcation for the people of pennsylvania. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting? >> well, we only need to look fe facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latinos. that's why we're winning. we're fighting back and winning. >> bill clinton, who is very good at making things simple, as we know, he's done it again this summer, he said this
law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in...
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it's law that just makes sense. that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help save you up to thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision guide. with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. join the millions who have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp... and provided by unitedhealthcare insurance company, which has over 30 years of experience behind it. with all the good years ahead, look for the experience and commitment to go the distance with you. call now to request your free decision guide. >>> right now, mitt romney tries to pass the commander-in-chief test with only 29 days left in the race, romney attacks the
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law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the same workers, mitt romney said he would honor their temporary visas and allow the workers to say in the u.s. if he becomes president. this of course, is that executive order that the president signed. mitt romney had not said whether he was going to keep that order in place or rescind it. he says now, you can keep it in place. >>> one border patrol agent has been killed in a shooting near the mexico/arizona border. we're following that story. we'll get you more updates as we get them. >>> in today's deep dive, president
law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the...
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. ♪ >>> controversy over the new school lunch law leaving kids hungry isn't going away. kids have been protesting which requires twice as many fruits and vegetables and limits protein and carbs. students in kansas paradyed the displeasure in this internet video. ♪ tonight we are hungry ♪ it could burn brighter >> and now political. a congressman of kansas co-sponsored legislation to repeal the rule saying, quote, students like these with parents and school administrators should be trusted to make their own decisions. with me, dr. nancy schniderman. >> social change is never easy. >> this is what they say. should be the calorie count. 850 calories high school, 700 middle school, 650 for elementary school. what they're saying is they eat it and i'm still hungry. does that make sense? >> yes. that's difference of being full and being really hungry. and these kids probably, because we all have gotten there, we overeat so we really don't have the switch so much in our brains anymore to tell when we're just satiated and for the kids who really are jocks, that's nothing to
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your favorite wednesday night shows like modern family, x factor and something called law and order are all preempted but you will take sports over a night of politics, right? who would want to watch two out of touch politicians answer questions when the tigers are playing the royals in ksansas city. you probably think the debates are really boring or you decided who you are voting for in may like normal people. what you need is a twitter buddy. what's a twitter buddy? it's a debate ambassador of sorts and it will save your life. pick a few. watching a live debate while following your favorite twitter personalities will make a wonky and depressing live puppet show super fun. good debate twitter buddies fit the following criteria. they let you know when to drink because that's important. and you need a list of words so you know when to do that. twel out word for word debate one-liners they deem important in case you can't tell. for you old folks this is like delayed closed captioning, helpful. post snarky insider sounding comments you won't understand like i bet henrik liked that one, or
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the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want that you're going to have to have a certificate, birth certificate with a raised seal and three other forms of identification. well, that was a problem. so then the state said, okay, here is what we're going to do. we'll issue a new form of i.d. that's good only for voting, and they started to do that, but they said you could only get that if you couldn't qualify for the other forms. then they changed their mind on that. so what the judge finally said is, i think the state now has it about right, that it's easy to g
the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want...
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but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there are such laws that encourage outsourcing. he's never heard of them. never heard of them never heard of tax breaks company for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now, we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. so you see, the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. and that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. >> here's the point. mitt romney knows americans didn't want what is an unfair plans and that's why a decoy mitt showed up last night. but here's the thing. we're not going to let him get away with it and neither should you. head over to our facebook page where we're showing the details of the romney hypocrisy on issue after issue. he can't hide his true record. he can't attack health coverage and then get away with saying thi
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law in pennsylvania, the strict new i.d. law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are going to be more problems down the road putting this into effect like we've already seen, he says. he believes that the gap between the photo i.d.'s issued and the estimated need cannot be closed before the election. in other words, he says all the people who would have to get new photo i.d.s, he doubts there is enough time for them to get them. he says i'm not convinced in my predictive judgment there won't be any voter disenfranchisement arising out of this new law. pennsylvania in march passed this new law requiring voter i.d.s. people started going to get them and the state said, w
law in pennsylvania, the strict new i.d. law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are...
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that is not the law at all in pennsylvania. you don't have to have a driver's license or any other id in pennsylvania. but when you call the state's number to figure out how to vote. that is what you get. as of today. so, naturally when we got that recording one of our producers called back and asked why. why the confusing website. >> okay. but your out going message is actually like sending not just a mixed message but
that is not the law at all in pennsylvania. you don't have to have a driver's license or any other id in pennsylvania. but when you call the state's number to figure out how to vote. that is what you get. as of today. so, naturally when we got that recording one of our producers called back and asked why. why the confusing website. >> okay. but your out going message is actually like sending not just a mixed message but
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it's law that just makes sense. with the fidelity stock screener, you can try strategies from independent experts and see what criteria they use. such as a 5% yield on dividend-paying stocks. then you can customize the strategies and narrow down to exactly those stocks you want to follow. i'm mark allen of fidelity investments. the expert strategies feature is one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. now get 200 free trades when you open an account. >>> the dow industrials give back earlier gains but end the day up 78 points. the s&p 500 adds 4. the nasdaq falls 3. upbeat news about the economy started today's rally. a reporting on the manufacturing sector showed expansion in september, the first time that happened since may. on the m&a front, 3m is by buying ceradyne. that's it for cnbc, first in business worldwide. we'll send it back to "hardball" and your host, chris matthews. >>> well, back to "hardball." republicans have been on the hunt, by the way, some would say witch hunt, to root
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with some confidence that they'll take the voting rights act case is because of the way the federal law works. if you get turned down by the federal government, the congress virtually requires the supreme court to hear those. i think it's likely they'll take up the voting rights challenge and the defense of marriage. >> pete williams, always good to see you. thanks. >> my pleasure. >>> the first day of the term prompts today's tweet of the day. luke johnson says john roberts is back from his island fortress. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. that make kids happy. and even fewer that ma moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. woman: what do you mean, homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? [ heart rate incre
with some confidence that they'll take the voting rights act case is because of the way the federal law works. if you get turned down by the federal government, the congress virtually requires the supreme court to hear those. i think it's likely they'll take up the voting rights challenge and the defense of marriage. >> pete williams, always good to see you. thanks. >> my pleasure. >>> the first day of the term prompts today's tweet of the day. luke johnson says john...
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. >> i never used it for college, for law school, or to get a job. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with the economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> you would be a reliable ally when it came to his economic plan? on his economic plan, you said there's nobody better. >> i would also like to read the bills. a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> meanwhile, a new set of polls show this race is close. polling from mass i think has it close. 18% of massachusetts voters are still undecided. and that means senator brown's seat is still up for grabs. for more on this tonight, let's turn to felix arroyo. you were at the first debate and of course, at this one again tonight. watched thi
. >> i never used it for college, for law school, or to get a job. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to...
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stop bob bourque he's not there because joe biden studied hard with a lot of the most leading liberal law professor and figured out what the right arguments were to beat bob bourque. he is good at applied intelligence, he wins most deefts baits he's in, he is unshackled with this debate in a way that the palin debate was problematic for him. they had to prepare him for palin by saying don't condescend her, don't come across like frank sinatra on aing very glass lounge state. you can't -- don't treat her like an idiot, don't treat her like a girl. all how you hold back. this debate is not like that. this debate i can go at this guy hard on policy and his inclination was to do that before the president's problem in denver, inclination is double that i don't mean personally, he's going to be very substantive and very much driven by numbers and policy contrasts. >> the policy issues are going to be forefrontier because for two years before romney was on the scene, obama was using the ryan budget as his foil, as the stand-in for the eventual republican candidate. why? because it slashes a lot
stop bob bourque he's not there because joe biden studied hard with a lot of the most leading liberal law professor and figured out what the right arguments were to beat bob bourque. he is good at applied intelligence, he wins most deefts baits he's in, he is unshackled with this debate in a way that the palin debate was problematic for him. they had to prepare him for palin by saying don't condescend her, don't come across like frank sinatra on aing very glass lounge state. you can't -- don't...
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appeals from the obama administration and several voting rights group saying it violates a federal law of removing voters 90 days from a letter. it was compiled using a homeland security citizenship database that originally contained more than 2,000 names but had hundreds of inaccuracies. the florida secretary of state praised the ruling but groups on posing the purge say it could prevent legitimate votes from being cast. there's one more jobs report left before the election. how could it rock the presidential race? zachary will crunch numbers for you. check out our "news nation" tumblr page. you'll find behind the scene pictures. in honor of the funky meters being nominated to the rock 'n roll hall of fame, here's my producer's song she picked for this friday he. ♪ [ male announcer ] one in six. that's how many struggle with hunger in america. ♪ but what if there was a simple way to feed those in need? now, there is. shop walmart for select brands' low prices through october 12th and you help secure meals for local families. go to walmart.com/hunger and learn more about how you ca
appeals from the obama administration and several voting rights group saying it violates a federal law of removing voters 90 days from a letter. it was compiled using a homeland security citizenship database that originally contained more than 2,000 names but had hundreds of inaccuracies. the florida secretary of state praised the ruling but groups on posing the purge say it could prevent legitimate votes from being cast. there's one more jobs report left before the election. how could it rock...
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>> well, thomas, the courts just reset the law. it went back to the original law in the state of ohio. so, all along it was up to the county boards of elections, but since the debacle of 2004, county boards have been allowing that last three days, especially in the urban counties. and let us not forget that the type of voting that the secretary of state has cut out has a disproportionate impact on african-american voters. there was just a study that came out that said that african-americans are 26 times more likely to vote early and in person than any other voter in the state of ohio. so, make no mistake about it, the republicans are doing everything they can, whether it's on the federal level or the state level, to try to target african-american voters and poor voters, but this is a victory for all voters in the state of ohio now that the last three days, the boards of elections have that discretion, but it is a victory. >> but if the secretary of state, as you say, has been trying to get this to be a tighter time period, what's t
>> well, thomas, the courts just reset the law. it went back to the original law in the state of ohio. so, all along it was up to the county boards of elections, but since the debacle of 2004, county boards have been allowing that last three days, especially in the urban counties. and let us not forget that the type of voting that the secretary of state has cut out has a disproportionate impact on african-american voters. there was just a study that came out that said that...
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, it's massively, massively destructive, and yet it seems that after it all happens, we passed some laws, some stuff happens in the background and that's when the lobbyists come in and that's when all the people who can wield their supposed expertise has this powerful tool to destroy attempts to reign in the banks. if you're home watching and feel like we're throwing around terms, i'll explain them. this stuff is understandable, it really is. it's really, really vitally important. alexis. >> i wanted to mention that mitt romney says he wants more transparency, leverage limits. i was excited to hear that but i was confused. when people talk about transparency in relationship to the dodd-frank, it's about plus rules. plus execution facilities which are like exchanges where derivatives are supposed to get more transparency. the republicans in the house and the senate have been making themselves very busy trying to gut those rules. this is something i debated on the show. there's a couple of different bills. but what mitt romney said that he wants transparency, he's not consistent with what
, it's massively, massively destructive, and yet it seems that after it all happens, we passed some laws, some stuff happens in the background and that's when the lobbyists come in and that's when all the people who can wield their supposed expertise has this powerful tool to destroy attempts to reign in the banks. if you're home watching and feel like we're throwing around terms, i'll explain them. this stuff is understandable, it really is. it's really, really vitally important. alexis....
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the law that people marched and died for. the law that is now under attack by voter i.d. laws. the supreme court may decide whether key revisions should stand nearly five decades later. how do justices rule in these cases will affect millions of americans. who can go to college, who can get married, who can vote. that's why this election is so important. whoever is elected president next month will likely appoint at least just one new justice to the court and it's no mystery what a romney supreme court would look like. here's what he said back in december during the primary debates. >> yes, roberts, thomas, alito, and scalia. >> those are four justices that are the most conservative on the bench. they all ruled against abortion rights, against equal pay, and for unlimited political donation for corporations. yes, this is not about who likes the president or not. sure he's likeable. this is not about all of the side bar issues. this is about what we fundamentally stand
the law that people marched and died for. the law that is now under attack by voter i.d. laws. the supreme court may decide whether key revisions should stand nearly five decades later. how do justices rule in these cases will affect millions of americans. who can go to college, who can get married, who can vote. that's why this election is so important. whoever is elected president next month will likely appoint at least just one new justice to the court and it's no mystery what a romney...
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in venezuela with all the atrocities, the rule of law. my main disagreement with chavez is because he's been an accomplice of the colombia terrorist groups and i disagree with giving the opportunity to show up while everyone knows in colombia that chavez has been an accomplice here of terrorist groups. >> can i ask one other question? the kind of pressure you put on the terrorists in colombia, some americans are saying we need to do that in mexico, which is a country now threatened by drug cartels violence. what do you think about? could the colombian model work for mexico. the president of mexico has done very well. i am confident that the new president will commit himself. we call that determination. the new president recently. >> the book is "no lost causes," president alvaro uribe, thank you very much. it was an honor to have you on the show this morning. ahead this morning, a personal and revealing look back at reagan's west coast white house by president reagan's daughter. >>> and next, molly ringwald joins the table. you're watchin
in venezuela with all the atrocities, the rule of law. my main disagreement with chavez is because he's been an accomplice of the colombia terrorist groups and i disagree with giving the opportunity to show up while everyone knows in colombia that chavez has been an accomplice here of terrorist groups. >> can i ask one other question? the kind of pressure you put on the terrorists in colombia, some americans are saying we need to do that in mexico, which is a country now threatened by...
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but today the judge blocked a key part of the law. his ruling means voters will be asked for an i.d. but they can go ahead and vote without one. the ruling only covers this election. the decision is bad news for republicans in pennsylvania. earlier this year one of the party leaders boasted the law would help mitt romney win the election. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of 41 states to pass restrictive new voting laws since president obama won in 2008. so far 17 states have successfully passed restrictive votesing laws since president obama won the white house. republicans in ohio tried to squash early voting. the gop tried to purge the voter roles in florida. the republicans have claimed all along they are trying to stop voter fraud. but look what happens. it turns out they are the ones who were cheating. a get out the vote scandal is rocking the republican party. strategic allied consulting was hired to help register voters. now they are firing th
but today the judge blocked a key part of the law. his ruling means voters will be asked for an i.d. but they can go ahead and vote without one. the ruling only covers this election. the decision is bad news for republicans in pennsylvania. earlier this year one of the party leaders boasted the law would help mitt romney win the election. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of 41 states to pass...
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. >> i did the same thing for law school right through the stock market, was able to pay back everybody. >> if the president's re-elected, what are the chances that the american business community will think anew about him and be happy that he's re-elected and happy about -- and have confidence that he knows how to be a good pro-business? >> the answer would be because he goes to congress and comes up with a deal. if he comes up with a deal so we have some certainty about what our taxes are going to be and that there won't be massive layoffs from the federal government, he will be hailed as a hero because that's what people talk about, will it be oil or gas or clothing, apparel, retail. these retail executives say we are not getting the sales we'd like because everybody is worried about getting laid off because of this fiscal cliff. it's in the mindset. the president solved it, bingo. >> you just said the word. if i boil down the past four years of economic hardship why we're stalled from every businessperson i talk to at every level, from the small business, bagel owner at bagel heads
. >> i did the same thing for law school right through the stock market, was able to pay back everybody. >> if the president's re-elected, what are the chances that the american business community will think anew about him and be happy that he's re-elected and happy about -- and have confidence that he knows how to be a good pro-business? >> the answer would be because he goes to congress and comes up with a deal. if he comes up with a deal so we have some certainty about what...
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these are brand new laws, right? >> yes. >> and what you're actually common straig demonstrating is, it continues and where we're really seeing it is outside of the voter in organizations, political parties, and candidates even who actually are doing much more fraudulent activity, i would argue. is that your sense? >> yes, that is my sense. but i want to go to -- to your point. the secretary of state of ohio talks about how -- over the past three or four presidential elections, you are talking about 12, 14, 16 years. that there has only been a handful of fraudulent type of voting that true the vote claims they are trying to address. so it appears that to me, that we have these folks have a remedy, melissa, in search of a problem. >> right. >> the problem is not there. and i think it's so unfair. again, i emphasize, we have got to guard this right to vote. >> yeah. >> it is so important. and if they get away with this -- if you look at what just happened, the decision that you talked about in ohio and in pennsylvania,
these are brand new laws, right? >> yes. >> and what you're actually common straig demonstrating is, it continues and where we're really seeing it is outside of the voter in organizations, political parties, and candidates even who actually are doing much more fraudulent activity, i would argue. is that your sense? >> yes, that is my sense. but i want to go to -- to your point. the secretary of state of ohio talks about how -- over the past three or four presidential...
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. >> we do have tough gun laws in massachusetts. i support them. i won't chip away at them. >> he did not. in 2004 governor romney signed the permanent assault weapons ban in massachusetts. then mitt romney decided to run for president. he started prepping himself for the republican presidential primary and then, of course, things got hilarious on the subject of guns. mr. romney said in a debate with "the boston globe," quote, i have a gun of my own. i go hunting myself. to which someone in the room replied, and i quote, excuse me, but isn't that your son josh's gun? yes, yes, it was. on the campaign trail, mr. romney touted it by saying he was a lifetime member of the nra. he would brag about that. that was sort of true. he joined the nra as a lifetime member in august 2006, just before announcing his presidential run. lifetime isn't the same thing as lifelong when it comes to membership in the nra. you too could become a member of the nra simply by giving them $1,000. when asked about his recent membership, mr. romney explained, q
. >> we do have tough gun laws in massachusetts. i support them. i won't chip away at them. >> he did not. in 2004 governor romney signed the permanent assault weapons ban in massachusetts. then mitt romney decided to run for president. he started prepping himself for the republican presidential primary and then, of course, things got hilarious on the subject of guns. mr. romney said in a debate with "the boston globe," quote, i have a gun of my own. i go hunting myself....
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but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there are such laws that encourage outsourcing. never heard of them. never heard of them. never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said, if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seem to be doing just fine with his current accountant. so you see, the man on stage last night he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. and that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. so governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking to the middle class. that's the math. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round of budget-busting tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in edu
but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there are such laws that encourage outsourcing. never heard of them. never heard of them. never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said, if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seem to be doing just fine with his current accountant. so you see, the man on stage last night he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt...
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law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general election. all photo i.d.s must be current and contain an expiration date unless otherwise noted. >> so that was our scoop last night. our bad scoop. because what you just heard there from the state of pennsylvania is not the law. but it's what the state of pennsylvania was telling people anyway as of yesterday afternoon on the phone line that the state was telling people to call if they had any questions or if they were at all confused about voting this year. so say anybody who doesn't have a driver's license and was calling the state to find out if they can vote, as of yesterday, that recording on the state's phone line for voting help was telling them, no, you can't vote, when, in fact, legally you can. ultimately when we question the state elections office about that yesterday afternoon they took down that recording. they said it was just an oversi
law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general election. all photo i.d.s must be current and contain an expiration date unless otherwise noted. >> so that was our scoop last night. our bad scoop. because what you just heard there from the state of pennsylvania is not the law. but it's what the state of pennsylvania was telling people anyway as of...
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that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking into the matter. the mechanics of the election are upon us now. this was ohio today. yes, those are tents. people were sleeping in them because early voting started in ohio today and people slept out to be first in line. first lady was in ohio today not just to persuade people and to inspire people to vote for her husband but to persuade them to do so right this second which people in ohio could do starting today. in most of the swing states, early voting is happening already. and yeah the campaigns are still trying to sway people and there's the debate tomorrow. but we are now into it. w
that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking...
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it doesn't just depend on the law itself. it depends on what people think the law is in pennsylvania. people are calling the state calling that toll free number to find out about voting and being told when they call that number to effectively not show up if they don't have an i.d. then honestly it doesn't matter what the judge ruled. people without i.d. will probably stay home. pennsylvania elections officials said this week they are pulling their multimillion dollar ad campaign targeted at educating voters about the photo i.d. requirements because of course there is no longer an i.d. requirement. but you know what? even before you get to taking down your ad campaign as you meander around with that task pennsylvania you might also want to consider this. the bureau of elections for cumberland county in pennsylvania as of today hopefully informing its visitors that, quote, all voters will be required to show photo i.d. at the polling place in the november, 2012, general election. actually voters will not be required to show pho
it doesn't just depend on the law itself. it depends on what people think the law is in pennsylvania. people are calling the state calling that toll free number to find out about voting and being told when they call that number to effectively not show up if they don't have an i.d. then honestly it doesn't matter what the judge ruled. people without i.d. will probably stay home. pennsylvania elections officials said this week they are pulling their multimillion dollar ad campaign targeted at...
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since 2010 republicans have been passing law after law after law to limit your right to vote. voter i.d., voter registration, early voting. the republicans want less people voting in our democracy, not more. they're trying to roll back the clock on more than our century's worth of progress in civil rights. now the tide is turning. inch by inch, state by state, we've been reclaiming our rights and turning back the wave of voter suppression. we saw it when the justice department stepped in to block the laws in texas, south carolina and florida. we saw it when governors in six states all but one were democrats, vetoed voter i.d. laws. they were champions of democracy to do so. and we saw it when state and federal courts rejected laws in eight states, including today's major ruling in pennsylvania. this morning a judge blocked pennsylvania's controversial voter i.d. from going into effect before the november election. after it was revealed that hundreds of thousands of voters face the real pocket that they would not be allowed to vote. but now this unjust law will not be in effect
since 2010 republicans have been passing law after law after law to limit your right to vote. voter i.d., voter registration, early voting. the republicans want less people voting in our democracy, not more. they're trying to roll back the clock on more than our century's worth of progress in civil rights. now the tide is turning. inch by inch, state by state, we've been reclaiming our rights and turning back the wave of voter suppression. we saw it when the justice department stepped in to...
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romney was first to point out the reforms he signed into law in massachusetts was something he shied away from in the past. the president could come into office facing 23 million people out of work, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spent his energy and passion fighting for obama care instead of jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state, craft a plan that fits the needs of the state, then let's focus on getting the costs down for people rather than raising it with the $2,500 additional premium. >> the irony is we have seen this model work really well, in massachusetts. because governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs and as a consequence, we now have a system in which we have the opportunity to bring down costs as opposed to leaving millions of people out in the cold. >> mr. romney was the most aggressive of the two and did not mind interrupting the moderator. >> jim, th
romney was first to point out the reforms he signed into law in massachusetts was something he shied away from in the past. the president could come into office facing 23 million people out of work, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spent his energy and passion fighting for obama care instead of jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state, craft a plan that fits the needs of the state, then let's focus on getting...
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>> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama i would say, look, the vice president and i agree that when we came to office, we were losing a war. we were losing it badly and losing it in a way that would have been catastrophic for the region and would have made americans less safe. so i increased the troop presence there, stabilized the situation, got to a point where we would be able to withdraw. >> was biden right? >> biden was one of our advisers. he had input on our decision and -- >> in the fight over whether the fight in afg
>> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that...
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law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still looking for good polls. right now it's probably best to see the swing state polls that come out monday, tuesday, wednesday. at that point we'll have a good idea after people have digested the debate as well as these job number, but alex, i think you pointed to it very well. the obama campaign got a very big gift from the job number, just to be able to turn the subject from wednesday night's tough debate into something that was seen as a positive, that the unemployment rate went below 8% and just change the story. allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remain
law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still...
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law. all the details. and on ttter using the #edshow. >>> thanks for wching "the ed show." mitt romney is runng behind in the polls. he needs to bring his a game tomorrow night. does he has have a game? romney has an uphi climb on his hands. done some al damagto the campaign. is being given analysis by the americaneople. >> that infamous piece otape american peopl st poll shows just 23% of likely votersay romy's comments made th tnk more 45% said it madefeel more romn senior adviser ed gillese sa they are expecting the 47% remark to come up in tomorrow's date and is prepared to an it and address it. we believe the voters willee and appreciate the facat overnor romney'salking about uld improvthe ity ericans. joining me tonight is msnbc political analysrichd wolffe and host of "now with alex wagn",lex wagner. congratulations on your show. it's realltaken off. >> thank you, ed. >> there's dage here. mee polls owt. you can almost feel it. richard, how does heeverse the damage tomorrow night? >> if he'srte the debate as a c reintroduce himselto the american people. he blew that
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laws and the president wins a second term? let's ask msnbc policy analyst ezra klein of the "washington post." good afternoon, ezra. i'm glad you're here. it needs a man of your intellect to unravel this complex and comprehensive conspiracy. here is the one question we keep hearing today. take a listen to this, ezra. >> how do you drop a third in the overall number and only add about 100,000 jobs? >> how did we get a drop of one-third in the unemployment rate? >> well, we didn't get a drop of one-third. the unemployment rate went down 0.3 of 1%. that's how much we're talking about here. a lot of this is because we have this weird psychological fixation on this line at 8% and it went under that, but we've had a 0.2 drop earlier, we had a 0.4 of a percentage drop a year ago. this is not some incredibly weird aberration we need to explain. it's not even, frankly, that good of a number. 7.8% is not great. could go up to 7.9% or 8% next month. the idea we've had an incredibly wonderful labor report that we have to figure out a cons
laws and the president wins a second term? let's ask msnbc policy analyst ezra klein of the "washington post." good afternoon, ezra. i'm glad you're here. it needs a man of your intellect to unravel this complex and comprehensive conspiracy. here is the one question we keep hearing today. take a listen to this, ezra. >> how do you drop a third in the overall number and only add about 100,000 jobs? >> how did we get a drop of one-third in the unemployment rate? >>...
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both of them harvard, both of them harvard law review. i mean, it was amazing how they were like flip sides of the same coin. >> it is. they do a fascinating parallels. but the paradox of the difference is that john roberts when it comes to the constitution is the candidate of change. he's the one who wants to change the law on abortion, on civil rights, on the death penalty, on all of these areas whereas obama is much more of a cautious conservative when it comes to the course. he's the one saying, let's leave things the way they are. the law is okay the way it is. roberts is part of the generation of conservatives. ronald reagan brought them to washington who said, we have to change the law. >> i've been trying to tell everybody, i'm a conservative. i'm trying to conserve the voting rights act, conserve affirmative action. i'm the conservative. so glad jeffrey toobin came on the show to affirm that for me. >> that's my goal, rev. >> jeffrey toobin. the book is, the oath, the obama white house and the supreme court. you need to read it a
both of them harvard, both of them harvard law review. i mean, it was amazing how they were like flip sides of the same coin. >> it is. they do a fascinating parallels. but the paradox of the difference is that john roberts when it comes to the constitution is the candidate of change. he's the one who wants to change the law on abortion, on civil rights, on the death penalty, on all of these areas whereas obama is much more of a cautious conservative when it comes to the course. he's the...
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i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there and doing the typical -- >> why does it seem like the right thing to do? >> well, it seems like the right thing to do for you, chris, but what is the fair share? what is the fair number that a warren buffett or a mitt romney or myself should pay? that's going to be at one end of the debate? but how do we get others in our economy who want to be taxpayers, who want to be taxpayers, those who lost their jobs under this administration, want to be back under the administration and pay their fair share, so let's get them the jobs to do that. >> i'm not sure that was a clear response. >> it was clear. it worked for me.
i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there...
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and even if your local law enforcement authorities are okay with it. and even request your state's government says stuff like segregation now. you're part of the united states of america and far of our constitution you cannot operate racially discriminatory businesses. nobody thinks you can do this anymore, right? lives were lost and a lot of blood was shed to enforce that principle, but it is settled now, right? until the last couple of years. when kentucky republican rand paul won a seat in the united states senate in 2010. it was after a campaign in which he said the 1964 civil rights act made him uncomfortable. he wasn't sure that anybody should be able to tell a private business that, for example, you have to serve black people. >> would you have voted for the civil rights act of 1964? >> i like the civil rights act in the sense that it ended discrimination in all public domains and i'm all in favor of that. but -- you had to ask me the but. but i don't like the idea of telling private business owners. i ab who are racism. i think it's a bad idea
and even if your local law enforcement authorities are okay with it. and even request your state's government says stuff like segregation now. you're part of the united states of america and far of our constitution you cannot operate racially discriminatory businesses. nobody thinks you can do this anymore, right? lives were lost and a lot of blood was shed to enforce that principle, but it is settled now, right? until the last couple of years. when kentucky republican rand paul won a seat in...
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that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking into the matter. the mechanics of the election are upon us now. this was ohio today. yes, those are tents. people were sleeping in them because early voting started in ohio today and people slept out to be first in line. is technically, he did quash it and this should ought to be the most important thing. the bottom line here, in pennsylvania is that as of this judge's ruling today, you do not have to have a driver's license or another form of government issued i.d. election and how it is run. and in some ways how the election is being run and how the campaign prepares for it looks a litt
that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking...
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law in pennsylvania. tim burns, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine culliton-gonzalez. director of the voter protection program at advancement project. i just want -- i know she doesn't outrank either of you start because she's an expert at this. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania for this election? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. we're pleased with it. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania, in texas, and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vindication for the people of pennsylvania. who would have been disenfranchised by it. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting to keep from voting? >> well, we only need to look at the facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latino
law in pennsylvania. tim burns, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine culliton-gonzalez. director of the voter protection program at advancement project. i just want -- i know she doesn't outrank either of you start because she's an expert at this. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania for this election? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. we're pleased with it. the fight is still...
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state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. ♪ most paints have color that sits on the surface. but nothing beats benjamin moore's color lock technology that locks color right in, no matter how often you wash it. color lock technology. exclusively from your benjamin moore retailer. find your perfect color with a buy one, get one pint offer. visit benjaminmoore.
state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank...